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thyroidstory.mivox.com was started as a simple blog dealing with my new diagnosis of hypothyroidism. Topics include medical information about hypothyroidism, information about hypothyroid medications like levothyroxine (Synthroid) and Armour Thyroid, as well as natural supplements like Thyromine, vincopectine and various vitamins and minerals. The site has now expanded to include discussion forums where other hypothyroid patients can discuss their experiences with hypothyroidism, and share tips for what medications, supplements and weight loss strategies have worked best for them.
Submitted by mivox on Wednesday, 19 July, 2006 - 10:13pmSupplements

Thyromine thyroid health supplementI ordered a 6 month supply of Thyromine (their "buy 4 get 2 free" deal), and expected to have to use it for at least a couple weeks before I could really say if it was helping at all, but much to my surprise the effects were almost immediate. I've tried various vitamins and other "thyroid support" supplements, and none of them has made as noticable a difference as Thyromine has. It's a rather spendy product (which is why I opted for the 6 month supply ... the discount was very persuasive. ;-), but so far I think it's quite worth it.

The three "active" ingredients are l-tyrosine (an amino acid), bovine thyroid powder and bovine adrenal powder. In addition, there are four herbal/nutritional ingredients: Guglipid, which I have seen in many thyroid supplements; Nori, a seaweed rich in iodine and trace minerals; Piper longum (long pepper) extract, which they say helps increase thyroid hormone production; Ginger extract, which is often recommended as a systemic herbal "tonic" and digestive aid.

From the Thyromine website:

L-Tyrosine:
L-Tyrosine is one of the amino acids that your body needs to make thyroid hormones. L-Tyrosine is included in some weight control products because it works to stimulate the metabolism. It's also an element in helping your brain operate efficiently and for you to feel good naturally.
Thyroid Powder from Bovine:
Thyroid powder contains the natural ingredients that help your thyroid to work properly. That means that thyroid powder works to relieve thyroid-related weight gain and the many other symptoms of hypothyroidism.
Adrenal Powder from Bovine:
The adrenal glands are basic in regulating your body's stress levels. Adrenal powder is used more and more in natural weight control products, and also can help with other stress effects brought on by hypothyroidism. Because the thyroid regulates the adrenal glands, people with hypothyroidism commonly don't produce enough adrenal hormones.
Guglipid:
Important new evidence indicates that guglipid, an extract from the Indian guggal tree, can improve thyroid function. This means that it contributes to controlling weight in people who have hypothyroidism. Scientists are finding that guglipid lowers bad cholesterol and increases good cholesterol, and helps prevent heart disease. Guglipid is used in Ayurvedic medicine to treat obesity, arthritis and lipid problems.
Nori:
The Japanese seaweed nori, also used in China and Korea, helps prevent thyroid problems such as goiter because it contains iodine, as well as fiber, protein, vitamins and minerals. In traditional medicine, nori is used to strengthen the circulatory system and to reduce cholesterol.
Piper longum Extract:
Piper longum, or long pepper in normal language, has been found to increase the production of thyroid hormones. It also stimulates the immune system. In Ayurvedic medicine, Piper longum is used to treat the digestive and respiratory systems.
Ginger Extract:
Important new information indicates that ginger helps lower cholesterol, works to prevent blood clots and helps relieve symptoms of inflammation, including in arthritis. In traditional medicine, ginger is used to treat digestive problems. It also has been shown to enhance the effects of other herbs and to stimulate many of the body's functions in a variety of ways.

More information on l-tyrosine from pdrhealth.com:

... L-tyrosine is found in proteins of all life forms. Dietary sources of L-tyrosine are principally derived from animal and vegetable proteins. Vegetables and juices contain small amounts of the free amino acid. The free amino acid is also found in fermented foods such as yogurt and miso.
In addition to being involved in protein synthesis, L-tyrosine is a precursor for the synthesis of the catecholamines epinephrine, norepinephrine and dopamine, the thyroid hormones thyroxine and triiodothyronine, and the pigment melanin.

Now, for my review. This stuff is great. I had been taking one Armour pill at bedtime, and then another about 12 hours later (usually around noon). If I forgot my mid-day dose, I'd find myself getting a bit tired in the early afternoon. Now, I take a Thyromine when I wake up, and I'm afraid I'm going to have to set an alarm on my phone to remind me of my daytime Armour dose, because I don't start feeling tired until evening. (And now that I remind myself, I think I'll take my daytime Armour right now. ;-)

In addition to the extra energy, I feel more mentally alert, and my short term memory seems to be improving also. L-tyrosine is hyped on a lot of websites as being helpful for depression, lethargy and supporting weight loss, as well as being and integral part of thyroid hormone synthesis. As a precursor to three important neurotransmitters, it's easy to see how it would help mental acuity. I've only been taking Thyromine for about a week now, so I can't really say if it's helping with weight loss yet, but as helpful as it is overall, I'd keep taking it even if it didn't.

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Submitted by Guest on Wednesday, 9 August, 2006 - 4:42am

help! I was recently diagnosed with Hashimoto's disease (I have a goiter) and I am taking levothyroxin (100 mcg) even tho all test results show I am in within the "normal" range for T4, T3, TSH, antibodies, etc.
I am still experiencing hypothyroid symptoms. Since my test results were "normal", the doctor did not want to see me for 6 mos. I have already called him once to let him know that I felt better after taking 50 mcg for a few weeks, then felt like I had a relapse and syptoms returned. And he graciously doubled my dose.
I am getting desperate and thinking of buying the over the counter thyroid supplement.
Any ideas? What is dosing on natural supplements?
Thanks

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Depends on the supplement ...
Submitted by mivox on Wednesday, 9 August, 2006 - 8:08pm

Natural supplements generally list their "recommended" doses on the bottle. For the Thyromine, for instance, it's one pill a day.

If your supplement is a thyroid-glandular with no additional ingredients, you might adjust your dose depending on your symptoms (like many doctors do when prescribing Armour thyroid), but if there are additional ingredients you'd probably be best following the label guidelines, as the other ingredients might have risks associated with taking too much.

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To Julie:
Submitted by mivox on Saturday, 4 November, 2006 - 1:05am

I'm terribly sorry, I accidentally deleted your comment when I went to delete the post where you quoted the entire blog post here ... :-(

Good luck with the Thyromine! Let us know how it works out for you, and don't forget that it's not meant to be a substitute for your proper prescription medication ... just an additional boost in addition to it! :-)

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Thank you so much for hosting this site!
Submitted by Guest on Monday, 4 December, 2006 - 10:35pm

I have been dealing with this issue for over 6 years and have had so many issues with helping the weight to fall off. It seems like all it does is add, add, add! I read through your site and more information than my mortal brain can handle on the Thyromine and placed the order myself.

Thank you again for this wonderful site!

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Thanks!
Submitted by mivox on Tuesday, 5 December, 2006 - 9:18pm

I'm very glad if this site helps people take control of their hypothyroid treatment, and start feeling better. :-)

If you like, please sign up for an account, and keep us posted on your progress!

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thyromine
Submitted by Guest on Tuesday, 20 February, 2007 - 11:22pm

I have been dealing with hypothryroidism for 5 years also. It is horrible (as you all know). The weight, the cold, the tiredness, the lack of oompf... I just ordered the thyromine yesterday and can't wait to start taking it. I hope it will make me human again instead of a couch potato. I will keep everyone posted on my progress.

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Thyromine works!
Submitted by Guest on Saturday, 14 July, 2007 - 9:05pm

I was diagnosed with hypo (Hashimotos) in 2001 and have been on thyroid hormone replacement ever since. I have tried levothyroxine alone, T3/T4 synthetic combos and Armour Thyroid alone and together with levothyroxine. Neither has been ideal for me. Levothyroxine did not relieve all of my symptoms; synthetic T3 and Armour on the other hand quickly made me hyperthyroid.

Only a couple of hours after taking Thyromine for the first time, I noticed a remarkable difference: I felt more energetic than I had in years. For the first time ever, levothyroxine alone works for me (combined with Thyromine) and I feel better than I have in years.

I used to be on 175 mcg of levothyroxine daily. Shortly after starting Thyormine (I have been taking it for about a month), I had to decrease it to 162,5 mcg and only a couple a days ago to 150 mcg. I may even have to decrease it further as I am beginning to feel slightly hyperthyroid on 150 mcg of T4. I would welcome it because my doctor thinks that everyone with hypo "should" take between 75 and 125 mcg of T4 a day...it has been a constant fight to get him to prescribe more than that.

Has anyone else on Thyromine noticed a need to decrease your daily dosage of thyroid hormone? I noticed that 1 capsule of Thyromine contains "1 mg of bovine thyroid glandular". Does anyone know how much that is? 100 mcg of T4 equals 0.1 mg of T4...so how am I supposed to know exactly how much thyroid hormone is in Thyromine?

Anyway, it seems to be working and if I continue to feel as great as I am doing right now, there is no way I am ever going to give it up!

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Hi Mivox, same experience as you, just some questions...
Submitted by Guest on Friday, 20 July, 2007 - 7:51pm

Like you, I find Thyromine to be great. It has given me more energy and has allowed me to feel great on T4 drugs alone (T3 drugs made me hyper although I seemed to need them for my mental well-being...while T4 drugs only seemed to work perfectly on the physical level...)

My question to you is: have you had to decrease your daily dosage of thyroid hormone since you started taking Thyromine? A couple of weeks after starting taking Thyromine, I had to go from 175 mcg of T4 to 150 mcg of T4 daily, and I feel great (after feeling lousy on anything inferior to 175 mcg of T4 daily for years...), so I guess everything is all right, and that I should be happy about my progress.

Just curious to know about your experiences...I have only been on Thyromine for about a month, but I feel better than I have since I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's disease 7 years ago.

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Well I will not argue whit
Submitted by Guest on Thursday, 30 August, 2007 - 12:22pm

Well I will not argue whit that, natural supplements definitely make the difference. Thank you for the wonderful review, I am sure many people will be tempted to try it. I found out about such products in weight loss articles and I figured it would worth trying since everything I tried before failed. I must say I felt great all along this is why it's so easy to believe everything you say in this blog.

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My reaction to Thyromine.
Submitted by Guest on Sunday, 2 September, 2007 - 10:36pm

Hi, I have Hashimotos too and, after taking a thyromine tablet in the morning for the first time, felt OK until evening when I developed an unusually splitting and horrible headache. As if my brain were swelling slightly. I gave it another go with the thyromine again the next day, 1 capsule as suffested, and again by the evening had a crippling headache which I have never had in my life before quite like that. I have left it for a week or so to give a space to see if it was a fluke and will try one tablet again, but if I get a headache again I shall come off them, and make sure I mention it online in case other people don't realise there may be a connection to their sudden headaches, with Thyromine supplementation..

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Re: Natural Supplements: Thyromine
Submitted by Guest on Monday, 8 October, 2007 - 4:24pm

Indeed cholesterol is a big health problem nowadays. It's hard to control it and even harder to lower it. To be honest my mother has high cholesterol and I can't even understand why, she always has been careful with food. Now she is taking generic lipitor and her last doctor visit looked quite promising.

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